Collecting in Western Sierras

Has anyone been successful in obtaining a permit to collect in the western sierras? I have called in to several forest service offices and all have said they do not issue permits for collecting live trees. How about mountainous areas outside national parks? What agency would be in charge of those areas?
I have successfully collected dozens of urban yamadori, but have yet to venture into the mountains.
Thanks for any advice.
Ryan

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It sounds like you’re taking the right approach - checking with the land custodians is the best way to get started. For the non-US Forest areas, the BLM might be an agency to check with.

Ryan, would love to join you on the quest of collecting when you figure this out, and interested. Thx!